Multinational Commodities
2006.03.01 2:33
Recently I found many electric appliances made in Thailand, Malaysia, or China, but manufactured by Sony, Panasonic, Sanyo, Sharp, Toshiba. If you don't know these companies are Japanese origin, many people would think that these companies are based in respective countries. Global days the country of the company in commodities means nothing.
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Very true(Score:2)
by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@aracnet.com> on 2006.03.01 2:46 (#14818238) (http://www.informationr.us/ Last Journal: 2006.04.29 1:56)
And for isolationist activists like myself, it makes it *extremely* hard to buy any complex appliance if you want it manufactured in a certain country- even if you can find a Made in Japan or Made in the USA, that likely only means ASSEMBLED in Japan/USA- parts may have been manufactured anywhere, and you wouldn't know unless you took it apart and looked up part numbers.The problem with this is that the world is a dangerous place today- it wouldn't take hardly anything to say, replace the oil in a run of .5uf capacitors with nitroglycerin, thus allowing a single Islamic Terrorist in Malaysia to cause mysterious fires at random in Japan.
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Re:Very true(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.03.03 2:58 (#14836115) (http://mercedo-compl.../2006/04/zen-ya.html Last Journal: 2006.04.28 3:11)
The problem with this is that the world is a dangerous place today-
According to a pessimistic point of view, yes, but I don't believe so. Look at the sky, it is as clear as the deep green sea, we live under the same sky no matter where we live. Actually we are converging at only one integrated society.
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Re:Very true(Score:2)
by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@aracnet.com> on 2006.03.03 3:25 (#14836387) (http://www.informationr.us/ Last Journal: 2006.04.29 1:56)
Look at the sky, it is as clear as the deep green sea, Depends where you are. In LA and Mexico city it's yellow- destroyed by the actions of man on the environment. That's the culture that they want to bring to Oregon. I want to keep it clear. And the sea off the coast of Oregon in many places is already no longer green- but rather a sickly brownish blue, all of the kelp, algae, and fish have been destroyed.Actually we are converging at only one integrated society. We are- and that's where the big mistake lies from an environmental standpoint. The lifestyle that works just fine in Paris or Tokyo doesn't work in Mexico City, or Oregon- it destroys more than it creates.
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Re:Very true(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.03.04 3:15 (#14843897) (http://mercedo-compl.../2006/04/zen-ya.html Last Journal: 2006.04.28 3:11)
Have you ever lived anywhere other than Oregon? I know Oregon is a very good place to live. I know you haven't. I suggest you to go on a trip somewhere other than Oregon. As if you were trapped in countryside Oregon. In other words your opinion is well applied to the place you live. Of course we want to know your opinion from your comments. But more importantly we want to know from your comments kinds of general truth that can be applied to many situationas not only in yours but in other cases too.
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Re:Very true(Score:2)
by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@aracnet.com> on 2006.03.04 3:26 (#14844002) (http://www.informationr.us/ Last Journal: 2006.04.29 1:56)
Have you ever lived anywhere other than Oregon? I know Oregon is a very good place to live. I know you haven't. I suggest you to go on a trip somewhere other than Oregon. As if you were trapped in countryside Oregon. In other words your opinion is well applied to the place you live. Of course we want to know your opinion from your comments. But more importantly we want to know from your comments kinds of general truth that can be applied to many situationas not only in yours but in other cases too. I haven't lived anyplace other than Oregon- I have traveled (Japan, Nevada and Florida) only to find I wasn't well suited to living anywhere else. My lifestyle is very well adapted to Oregon alone. And thus, my ideas wouldn't work very well elsewhere. For instance- Japan. The Ainu were very well adapted to living in the Islands- the Nippon who invaded from Korea, not as much, and the attempted Mongolian invasion in the 1400s was a complete disaster. Your birth control culture makes a lot of sense for living on a small island with few resources (the Ainu were even more strict with their population control)- it's completely objectionable to anybody living in a larger land. Many little items are the reason why, whenever a native culture is invaded and has to suddenly compete, it gets destroyed. The same story has been happening since Cain (the farmer/agriculturalist) killed Abel (the nomadic goat herder) in the Book of Genesis- 10,000 years at least.
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Re:Very true(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.03.05 0:28 (#14849896) (http://mercedo-compl.../2006/04/zen-ya.html Last Journal: 2006.04.28 3:11)
You've been in Japan? I'm glad to hear that. Probably you might mention that about one year ago though. I understand you know relatively many things about Japan unlike? other Americans.
I read Genesis some year ago and I still remember the story of Cain and Abel. It was difficult to draw connections from the story as regards, though, I just understand in the Western world how Bible takes deep root on people's daily life.
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Re:Very true(Score:2)
by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@aracnet.com> on 2006.03.07 1:53 (#14858857) (http://www.informationr.us/ Last Journal: 2006.04.29 1:56)
I read Genesis some year ago and I still remember the story of Cain and Abel. It was difficult to draw connections from the story as regards, though, I just understand in the Western world how Bible takes deep root on people's daily life. Re-read it sometime soon. Take a look at the respective jobs Cain and Abel did- and you'll quickly realize this is an anti-Western morality tale. The mark of Cain is a white face- 10,000 years ago Aryan farmers moved in to India and the Middle East, killing off the native nomadic tribes, and building the great civilizations of Ur and the Indus Valley. This was the start of civilization in our world- the earliest cities are found in these locations, a thousand years before Egypt, eight thousand years before the great Chinese dynasties. The result was Hinduism and the Sumerian religions that Abram rejected to found the monotheistic Judaism. But hidden in the origin myths of Judaism is this morality tale from before- beware those who bear the mark of Cain, they will destroy your tribe and your nomadic way of life to make way for agriculture. Cain is still killing Abel today in the tropical rainforests as they are burned to make way for wheat fields and pastureland. There aren't many tribal peoples left in this world to challenge Civilization- yet Civilization, it's turning out, contains the seeds of it's own destruction. That's why primativism is more important than ever- why we need to rediscover the evolved cultures.
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Re:Very true(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.03.08 1:07 (#14866746) (http://mercedo-compl.../2006/04/zen-ya.html Last Journal: 2006.04.28 3:11)
I will write here from all my previous knowledge, namely I will write it without refering to any bibliography. A description of Cain and Abel only appears in Genesis. They were sons of Adam and Eve, Cain was elder brother and engaging in agriculture, Abel was working in herd. Cain killed Abel.
This is a relatively short description and no other descriptions are found in other part.
and you'll quickly realize this is an anti-Western morality tale.
It is very hard to draw some anti-Western morality from this tale. Cain and Abel, Romulus and Remus, Minamotono Yoritomo and Yoshitsune, throughout history, this type of hatredness between brothers existed and killing sometimes took place. Although it is so, I will try to find what anti-morality is through following your comments
The mark of Cain is a white face- 10,000 years ago Aryan farmers moved in to India and the Middle East, killing off the native nomadic tribes, and building the great civilizations of Ur and the Indus Valley. This was the start of civilization in our world and building the great civilizations of Ur and the Indus Valley
Cain is Caucasoid, and Semite, but he has nothing to do with Aryans, let alone Aryan invasion. Aryan is Indo-European, not Semite. Aryan invasion was taken place 2000 BC, The tale of Cain and Abel was at least before the earliest civilisation 5000 BC.
As to Aryan invasion, I can hardly believe Aryan invaders were a farmer. They were nomadic tribes and they destroyed societies already existed there, rather we ought to say that the native people selttled down there ought to be regarded as agricultural people. Anyway people who founded Mesopotamia or Indus civilisation in 5000 BC are different from Aryans in 2000 BC.
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Re:Very true(Score:2)
by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@aracnet.com> on 2006.03.08 3:14 (#14868061) (http://www.informationr.us/ Last Journal: 2006.04.29 1:56)
Cain was elder brother and engaging in agriculture, Abel was working in herd. Cain killed Abel. Therein lies the key. Agriculture is a new paradigm- it requires LAND OWNERSHIP. Able was a nomadic herder- his way of life depended upon a lack of land ownership. You're taking the story too literally- take a step back from it. What happens when a culture that believes in Land Ownership invades a culture that doesn't? What has ALWAYS happened in this situation, every single time it occurs? The culture that doesn't believe in land ownership gets wiped out- without a trace.
--Admiting that you don't know everything is the begining of wisdom- or the lack of broadband internet.
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