Enjoy Slow Life(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.28 5:00 (#14811115) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.25 4:13)
Back in my early thirties, I went on a trip throughout not only Japan but America, Europe as well by taking a local train that stops station by station. And I greatly enjoyed its slowness indeed.
Slow amd steady makes our trip perfect, it is a privilage for the young. Although I'm not still sure whether you are young enough to spend luxuary hours in a trip though. Please enjoy your flight slowly, since few can be allowed to have this type of trip.
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Apparent Priority
Apparent Priority(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.28 4:34 (#14810893) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.25 4:13)
Herbal medicines are only good for the state before you caught disease. If you were caught in a disease, I strongly recommend you to consult a doctor and resort to Western medicine.
But it is true that originally many Western medicines are derived from the emperical knowledge obtained from the close observation having been done in nature. Basically their origin is the same, but western people analysed the ingredients and research & developed, extracted the effective ingredients and concentrated as a form of pill. You are taking what it used to be found in nature.
After you recovered from the ailment, why not look into whereabouts the origin of Western medicine?
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by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.28 4:34 (#14810893) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.25 4:13)
Herbal medicines are only good for the state before you caught disease. If you were caught in a disease, I strongly recommend you to consult a doctor and resort to Western medicine.
But it is true that originally many Western medicines are derived from the emperical knowledge obtained from the close observation having been done in nature. Basically their origin is the same, but western people analysed the ingredients and research & developed, extracted the effective ingredients and concentrated as a form of pill. You are taking what it used to be found in nature.
After you recovered from the ailment, why not look into whereabouts the origin of Western medicine?
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Freedom Of Movement
Freedom Of Movement(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.28 4:11 (#14810684) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.25 4:13)
Freedom of movement from one region to another or from one country to another is one of the main fundamental human rights. Your kincaidian stance toward immigration fits my stance well.
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by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.28 4:11 (#14810684) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.25 4:13)
Freedom of movement from one region to another or from one country to another is one of the main fundamental human rights. Your kincaidian stance toward immigration fits my stance well.
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Lesson Of Joseph
Excuse Me(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.28 3:39 (#14810376) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.25 4:13)
Could you tell me what The lesson of Joseph from the Bible refers to?
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by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.28 3:39 (#14810376) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.25 4:13)
Could you tell me what The lesson of Joseph from the Bible refers to?
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Monday, February 27, 2006
The Role Of University
The Role Of University
2006.02.03 13:42
You learn in the university what you cannot learn in the society.
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Then again...(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.03 14:14 (#14636772) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.03 14:22 (#14636878) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
In the society we learn how to sell water in desert, while in the university we learn how to buy water in desert.
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.04 10:38 (#14641698) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I like concise expression like this, but I add the explanation.
In the desert where water is scarce, people are generally eager to get water, so naturally they tend to spend much money just for water. Water will be sold much more expensive in the desert than other areas. So all we have to do in a society is to try to sell water in the desert as much as we can so that we can make a lot of money. This is what we have to learn from the society.
On the other hands, it is not a easy task for us to acquire knowledge in a university. It needs endurance, endeavour, perseverance, patience, constant effort. It is something like we try to get water in the desert. But only those who can get water from the desert are eligible to give it to people in the desert. That was not just sell &buy relations in it. We need benevolence in it in the first place. Money comes afterwards, it is merely a result of good will.
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.02.03 22:37 (#14639934) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
most of what you REALLY need to know can't be learned, but is the result of experience.That may be true... however, if it is true it's because we often don't know how to utilize what the University experience is offering. I recently began college in my mid twenties with a wife, child and one on the way... my life experience is much more than the average undergrad and for me college is a very enlightening experience. Particulary in the areas of fundamental self-expression.For example, college has helped me with developing a complete thought, analyzing it, removing the unecessary and offering it for discourse without expectation. This is very useful stuff... but you would have to know where and how to use it. And believe me... I am a half-indian/persian half african-american male married to an *angry* black woman; this is very useful stuff!
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.06 8:17 (#14650019) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
I've seen it too, that people who didn't go to college directly after high school, but do eventually go, are VASTLY better prepared to actually LEARN what the university has to teach. Those who go directly after high school just because it's expected of them are rarely ready to truly learn.For that reason alone it seems to me we ought to stop forcing the expectation of everybody needs to go to college. Just let people go when they are ready to go. A few years of real-world work (low wage work, for lack of advanced education) usually does the trick...
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.02.06 14:15 (#14653016) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
A few years of real-world work (low wage work, for lack of advanced education) usually does the trick...LOL! I couldn't have said it better myself.Cheers... :)
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.04 10:13 (#14641604) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Let me start with my personal experience in the university. I never had a part time job in my school days. Even just one time, never. If I were asked what I was doing, I can't help but reply that I was studying and reading a book and writing a thesis, that was all what I was doing.
But my case is very different from the case of other students. Many students had a part-time job, and enjoying their holidays with their intimate friend. Some student naturally started to have a romantic relationship with their boy or girl friends. I didn't believe any of them were studying hard. Only those who wanted to go to the graduate school or study abroad were eager to study in the university. Me? Throughout 4 years of my school days, I only studied, did nothing other than study. So I learned the world through a book first. In fact my life kept on like this till age 30.
I guess your opinion forms a majority of our society. But if we were in the university, I recommend young people that they'd better spend hours in their study and not outside the study. Then after they graduated from the university, they ought to start learning from experience in a society. That's my point.
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Then again...(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.03 14:14 (#14636772) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.03 14:22 (#14636878) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
In the society we learn how to sell water in desert, while in the university we learn how to buy water in desert.
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.04 10:38 (#14641698) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I like concise expression like this, but I add the explanation.
In the desert where water is scarce, people are generally eager to get water, so naturally they tend to spend much money just for water. Water will be sold much more expensive in the desert than other areas. So all we have to do in a society is to try to sell water in the desert as much as we can so that we can make a lot of money. This is what we have to learn from the society.
On the other hands, it is not a easy task for us to acquire knowledge in a university. It needs endurance, endeavour, perseverance, patience, constant effort. It is something like we try to get water in the desert. But only those who can get water from the desert are eligible to give it to people in the desert. That was not just sell &buy relations in it. We need benevolence in it in the first place. Money comes afterwards, it is merely a result of good will.
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.02.03 22:37 (#14639934) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
most of what you REALLY need to know can't be learned, but is the result of experience.That may be true... however, if it is true it's because we often don't know how to utilize what the University experience is offering. I recently began college in my mid twenties with a wife, child and one on the way... my life experience is much more than the average undergrad and for me college is a very enlightening experience. Particulary in the areas of fundamental self-expression.For example, college has helped me with developing a complete thought, analyzing it, removing the unecessary and offering it for discourse without expectation. This is very useful stuff... but you would have to know where and how to use it. And believe me... I am a half-indian/persian half african-american male married to an *angry* black woman; this is very useful stuff!
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.06 8:17 (#14650019) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
I've seen it too, that people who didn't go to college directly after high school, but do eventually go, are VASTLY better prepared to actually LEARN what the university has to teach. Those who go directly after high school just because it's expected of them are rarely ready to truly learn.For that reason alone it seems to me we ought to stop forcing the expectation of everybody needs to go to college. Just let people go when they are ready to go. A few years of real-world work (low wage work, for lack of advanced education) usually does the trick...
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.02.06 14:15 (#14653016) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
A few years of real-world work (low wage work, for lack of advanced education) usually does the trick...LOL! I couldn't have said it better myself.Cheers... :)
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.04 10:13 (#14641604) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Let me start with my personal experience in the university. I never had a part time job in my school days. Even just one time, never. If I were asked what I was doing, I can't help but reply that I was studying and reading a book and writing a thesis, that was all what I was doing.
But my case is very different from the case of other students. Many students had a part-time job, and enjoying their holidays with their intimate friend. Some student naturally started to have a romantic relationship with their boy or girl friends. I didn't believe any of them were studying hard. Only those who wanted to go to the graduate school or study abroad were eager to study in the university. Me? Throughout 4 years of my school days, I only studied, did nothing other than study. So I learned the world through a book first. In fact my life kept on like this till age 30.
I guess your opinion forms a majority of our society. But if we were in the university, I recommend young people that they'd better spend hours in their study and not outside the study. Then after they graduated from the university, they ought to start learning from experience in a society. That's my point.
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Gone With A Journal
Gone With A Journal
2006.02.03 12:51
Some slashdotters don't write their journals but only make a comment in other slashdotter's account or in a main article. Do they find their identity in relationship to other's?
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Perhaps(Score:2)
by FidelCatsro (861135) * <fidelcatsroNO@SPAMgmail.com> on 2006.02.03 13:44 (#14636501) (Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:46)
Perhaps they got hit by Trucks .. or Turks
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Re:Perhaps(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.03 14:39 (#14637017) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I feel it's too cool to find comments of themselves only in someone's journals. Since when they are gone, they leave everything.
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For me...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.02.04 10:25 (#14641645) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
...its creative seizure: either the things I'm thinking about are so trivial (to me, at least) that I can't imagine anyone else wanting to read them, or the ideas are so important to me that I don't want to be misinterpreted and I spend so long writing that the inspiration leaves me. I suppose the trivia wouldn't be so bad if I had your poetic touch, mercedo.But fundamentally, I consider myself rather boring. In fact, I'm so predictable that I always know what I'm going to say next...
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Re:For me...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.04 10:58 (#14641781) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
your poetic touch
You think so? Thank you very much.
I think journal deletion is not a great good idea. I kept my comment somewhere in the Internet, but I hadn't dared to keep someone's journal somewhere. In fact I missed his 'only one' journal.
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Perhaps(Score:2)
by FidelCatsro (861135) * <fidelcatsroNO@SPAMgmail.com> on 2006.02.03 13:44 (#14636501) (Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:46)
Perhaps they got hit by Trucks .. or Turks
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Re:Perhaps(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.03 14:39 (#14637017) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I feel it's too cool to find comments of themselves only in someone's journals. Since when they are gone, they leave everything.
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For me...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.02.04 10:25 (#14641645) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
...its creative seizure: either the things I'm thinking about are so trivial (to me, at least) that I can't imagine anyone else wanting to read them, or the ideas are so important to me that I don't want to be misinterpreted and I spend so long writing that the inspiration leaves me. I suppose the trivia wouldn't be so bad if I had your poetic touch, mercedo.But fundamentally, I consider myself rather boring. In fact, I'm so predictable that I always know what I'm going to say next...
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Re:For me...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.04 10:58 (#14641781) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
your poetic touch
You think so? Thank you very much.
I think journal deletion is not a great good idea. I kept my comment somewhere in the Internet, but I hadn't dared to keep someone's journal somewhere. In fact I missed his 'only one' journal.
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Two Signs Of World Language
Two Signs of World Language
2006.02.02 9:51
That is "there's no inflection in their words." and "they contain extremely enriched vocaburary." Both Chinese and English show a sign of world language.
English shows, in many aspects, a sign of good language. Probably proto-English used to have lots of paradigm change -inflection as other Indo-European language do. Nowadays we know Latin has more inflected words than English, but still English is an inflectional language.
On the other hands, Chinese is not inflectional. We say it 'analytical', for example, in English we say, ' In the past I went to the park.' or just 'I went to the park.' In Chinese, we say ' In the past we go to the park.' So if it's in present, we just say, 'I go to the park.' There's no inflection in Chinese. Then we noticed if we put the adverbal phrase like 'in the past', we don't have to use the past form 'went' to indicate the action was taken place in the past.
More and more English has been enriched by embracing many words - especially nouns from many other languages, less and less the inflection of English words is. I mean English words have been more rigid -fixed than before, because it is easier for non-native to learn not-inflected words.
Believe me now both world languages show strickingly similar syntax -both Chinese and English.
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Intonation(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.02 10:06 (#14625822) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
Chinese is a tonal language, which makes it difficult for people who don't speak a tonal language as their native tongue. They've done the studies with brain scans and everything to show that speaking or listening to chinese requires both sides of the brain, while english only requires half the brain. It is literally, physiologically more difficult to speak chinese than english.Which is why far more chinese speak english than english people speak chinese. English is easier for a chinese person to learn than is chinese for an american. For that reason alone, english is vastly better situated to be a global language than is chinese. Chinese may be dominate in asia, where many native languages are tonal and thus they can learn chinese without excessive difficulty, but everywhere else in the world...
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.02 10:33 (#14626068) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Completely correct. I was always amazed to see how Chinese people are very quick to learn to speak English.
Chinese is tonal, that is very unique to Chinese only. The pronounciation of our tongue is very similar to that of Spanish, not tonal at all so basically Chinese was very hard for us to pronounce and adopt. Since China had been very dominant power in all Asia, our national tongue was so affected by Chinese influence -about 80% of vacabulary was from Chinese, though, since there's no tonal distinction in Japanese, we've got usually tens of phononyms. "Ken" means prefecture, wise, dog, sword, etc. in Japanese, which is obviously ridiculous enough indeed.
Anyway I hope more and more Japanese people start using English as a way to communicate with the people of the rest of the world. It is not an essential problem for us not to have distinction between R&L sounds. Spanish also has no distinction of R&L.
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Re:Intonation(Score:2)
by kesuki (321456) on 2006.02.02 11:05 (#14626427) (http://kesuki.deviantart.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.26 7:08)
por favor espanol, does in deed have R and L differences, perhaps you meant the V and W being the same in slovic speaking regions. eg: i've come to vash the vindows.but yeah there are aqward situations love and rove* are both english words... but for the most part it's something that native speakers can puzzle out, english has several dialects in various regions of the world.... so* = normally suffixed, 'roved, roving, rover' very few people use 'rove' which still generates confusion with loved, loving, and lover
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.02 11:24 (#14626626) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
por favor espanol, I mean there is a distinction in R&L in spelling, but they don't pronounce them differently. I learned Spanish back in my early twenties, so I am sure.
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.02 11:53 (#14626998) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
My wife learned french before learning english. She has NO problem with r vs. l in french, but has great difficulty with them in english. It's really weird.
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.02 12:24 (#14627358) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
When it comes to pronounciation, English prides itself on abundant of sounds, there's no distinction in th and t in German, Latin people don't pronounce h sound, etc. The more the sounds one language has, the more it can distinguish lots of meanings, so this also indicates the degree of development as a tool of communication.
When English were able to get rid of some phononyms like pool, can, mean, right, light, the time is nigh for English to be true only one world language.
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Re:Intonation(Score:2)
by kesuki (321456) on 2006.02.02 22:08 (#14632140) (http://kesuki.deviantart.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.26 7:08)
well I guess i'm used to hearing mexican speakers Who DO diferentiate the R and L sounds... i've never been to spain, but my sister has.
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.02 11:07 (#14626449) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
I've been wondering for a while about other asian languages being tonal - Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc.I've no idea. So apparently Japanese is not tonal...
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by StalinsNotDead (764374) on 2006.02.02 12:24 (#14627355) (Last Journal: 2006.02.24 16:55)
Here's an article you may find interesting. [ucsd.edu]It's somewhat on topic, too. It's about a study wherein a number of sinophonic and anglophonic children who had begun musical training at about the same age and compared the numbers of those who developed perfect pitch. A higher percentage of the Chinese speakers had perfect pitch.
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.03 10:45 (#14635059) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
China had been long regarded as a Sleeping Giant. Throughout human history, China played one of the main roles in human development. Because it is Chinese characters - about 5000 ideograms that made China one of the early civilisations, and at the same time it is Chinese characters that deterred the development of modern times China.
As I mentioned, they learn to speak English surprisingly quickly. Bo I Knee
Bo-I I-Love Knee-You, superficial difference is enormous but basically both two languages are very similar language.
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2006.02.02 9:51
That is "there's no inflection in their words." and "they contain extremely enriched vocaburary." Both Chinese and English show a sign of world language.
English shows, in many aspects, a sign of good language. Probably proto-English used to have lots of paradigm change -inflection as other Indo-European language do. Nowadays we know Latin has more inflected words than English, but still English is an inflectional language.
On the other hands, Chinese is not inflectional. We say it 'analytical', for example, in English we say, ' In the past I went to the park.' or just 'I went to the park.' In Chinese, we say ' In the past we go to the park.' So if it's in present, we just say, 'I go to the park.' There's no inflection in Chinese. Then we noticed if we put the adverbal phrase like 'in the past', we don't have to use the past form 'went' to indicate the action was taken place in the past.
More and more English has been enriched by embracing many words - especially nouns from many other languages, less and less the inflection of English words is. I mean English words have been more rigid -fixed than before, because it is easier for non-native to learn not-inflected words.
Believe me now both world languages show strickingly similar syntax -both Chinese and English.
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Intonation(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.02 10:06 (#14625822) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
Chinese is a tonal language, which makes it difficult for people who don't speak a tonal language as their native tongue. They've done the studies with brain scans and everything to show that speaking or listening to chinese requires both sides of the brain, while english only requires half the brain. It is literally, physiologically more difficult to speak chinese than english.Which is why far more chinese speak english than english people speak chinese. English is easier for a chinese person to learn than is chinese for an american. For that reason alone, english is vastly better situated to be a global language than is chinese. Chinese may be dominate in asia, where many native languages are tonal and thus they can learn chinese without excessive difficulty, but everywhere else in the world...
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.02 10:33 (#14626068) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Completely correct. I was always amazed to see how Chinese people are very quick to learn to speak English.
Chinese is tonal, that is very unique to Chinese only. The pronounciation of our tongue is very similar to that of Spanish, not tonal at all so basically Chinese was very hard for us to pronounce and adopt. Since China had been very dominant power in all Asia, our national tongue was so affected by Chinese influence -about 80% of vacabulary was from Chinese, though, since there's no tonal distinction in Japanese, we've got usually tens of phononyms. "Ken" means prefecture, wise, dog, sword, etc. in Japanese, which is obviously ridiculous enough indeed.
Anyway I hope more and more Japanese people start using English as a way to communicate with the people of the rest of the world. It is not an essential problem for us not to have distinction between R&L sounds. Spanish also has no distinction of R&L.
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Re:Intonation(Score:2)
by kesuki (321456) on 2006.02.02 11:05 (#14626427) (http://kesuki.deviantart.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.26 7:08)
por favor espanol, does in deed have R and L differences, perhaps you meant the V and W being the same in slovic speaking regions. eg: i've come to vash the vindows.but yeah there are aqward situations love and rove* are both english words... but for the most part it's something that native speakers can puzzle out, english has several dialects in various regions of the world.... so* = normally suffixed, 'roved, roving, rover' very few people use 'rove' which still generates confusion with loved, loving, and lover
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.02 11:24 (#14626626) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
por favor espanol, I mean there is a distinction in R&L in spelling, but they don't pronounce them differently. I learned Spanish back in my early twenties, so I am sure.
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.02 11:53 (#14626998) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
My wife learned french before learning english. She has NO problem with r vs. l in french, but has great difficulty with them in english. It's really weird.
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.02 12:24 (#14627358) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
When it comes to pronounciation, English prides itself on abundant of sounds, there's no distinction in th and t in German, Latin people don't pronounce h sound, etc. The more the sounds one language has, the more it can distinguish lots of meanings, so this also indicates the degree of development as a tool of communication.
When English were able to get rid of some phononyms like pool, can, mean, right, light, the time is nigh for English to be true only one world language.
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Re:Intonation(Score:2)
by kesuki (321456) on 2006.02.02 22:08 (#14632140) (http://kesuki.deviantart.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.26 7:08)
well I guess i'm used to hearing mexican speakers Who DO diferentiate the R and L sounds... i've never been to spain, but my sister has.
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.02 11:07 (#14626449) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
I've been wondering for a while about other asian languages being tonal - Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc.I've no idea. So apparently Japanese is not tonal...
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by StalinsNotDead (764374) on 2006.02.02 12:24 (#14627355) (Last Journal: 2006.02.24 16:55)
Here's an article you may find interesting. [ucsd.edu]It's somewhat on topic, too. It's about a study wherein a number of sinophonic and anglophonic children who had begun musical training at about the same age and compared the numbers of those who developed perfect pitch. A higher percentage of the Chinese speakers had perfect pitch.
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Re:Intonation(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.03 10:45 (#14635059) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
China had been long regarded as a Sleeping Giant. Throughout human history, China played one of the main roles in human development. Because it is Chinese characters - about 5000 ideograms that made China one of the early civilisations, and at the same time it is Chinese characters that deterred the development of modern times China.
As I mentioned, they learn to speak English surprisingly quickly. Bo I Knee
Bo-I I-Love Knee-You, superficial difference is enormous but basically both two languages are very similar language.
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Superiority Of Perception Over Expressions
Our Perception Determines How We Express
2006.02.02 7:11
As to superiority of perception over languages
2006.02.02 7:11
As to superiority of perception over languages
Scholars have long debated whether our native language affects how we perceive reality - and whether speakers of different languages might therefore see the world differently. The idea that language affects perception is controversial, and results have conflicted. A paper published this month in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences supports the idea - but with a twist.
- Press release from Eurekalert
By and large, they researchers overestimate the value of language. Our perception is the first thing, and it varies according to different people. So like so many perceptions, we humans developed languages differently. Language determines how we perceive?is just an opposit to phenomena. Our perception determines how we express it, thus develop different languages.
I was unable to understand English till age 20 or something. Of course I passed English test, but what I understood at that time was not an English, I was able to understand only Japanese, what I was able to do was just a way to translate English into Japanese, for me Japanese was the only meaning.
Around at age 20, I tried to understand English as English speakers do -not through translation but as it is. Now of course I understand English quite well.
As a man who was unable to understand English till age 21, it seems absurd for us to overestimate the role of language in perception. Perception isn't affected by language, but language is a reflection of what we perceived. Therefore when our perception varies, our language also varies. But even though language we use changes, our perception never changes. Our perception determines how we use our languages. Our perception is prior to our language.
At age twenty, I just realised I am unable to express what I perceive through Japanese -my native tongue, so I decided to learn English to express properly what I perceived. But throughout my childhood to the present day, my perception has never changed.
If someone thinks that our language determines how we see things, I can't help saying he is not a master of language, but language has been affecting him decisively, which is a pity.
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English is also very nuanced(Score:2)
by Mantorp (142371) * <mantorp 'funny A' gmail.com> on 2006.02.02 8:07 (#14624799) (http://slashdot.org/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:41)
and contains more words than most if not all languages
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Re:English is also very nuanced(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.02 9:10 (#14625215) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
English shows, in many aspects, a sign of good language. Probably proto-English used to have lots of paradigm change -inflection as other Indo-European languages do. Nowadays we know Latin has more inflected words than English, but still English is an inflectional language.
On the other hands, Chinese is not inflectional. We say it 'analytical', for example, in English we say, ' In the past I went to the park.' or just 'I went to the park.' In Chinese, we say ' In the past we go to the park.' So if it's in present, we just say, 'I go to the park.' There's no inflection in Chinese. Then we noticed if we put the adverbal phrase like 'in the past', we don't have to use the past form 'went' to indicate the action was taken place in the past.
More and more English has been enriched by embracing many words - especially nouns from many other languages, less and less the inflection of English words is. I mean English words have been more rigid -fixed than before, because it is easier for non-native to learn not-inflected words.
Believe me now both world languages show strickingly similar syntax -both Chinese and English.
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Language(Score:2)
by Le Marteau (206396) on 2006.02.02 12:21 (#14627322) (Last Journal: 2006.02.23 22:32)
If someone thinks that our language determines how we see things, I can't help saying he is not a master of language, but language has been affecting him decisively, which is a pity.That is true, for a full-featured language such as English. Even if there is no word to describe what you want to describe, you can use a combination of words. Or poetry, for that matter.George Orwell's "1984" was interesting for describing attempted control of how people think by controlling the language they used ("Newspeak [wikipedia.org]").
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Re:Language(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.03 10:30 (#14634935) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Probably our language is affecting the way we think more than we imagined. Perhaps we just don't want to admit so. In my teens when I only understood Japanese, I think I was more authoritative than now.
Korea under Japanese rule( 1905 -1945 ), Korean people were forced to use Japanese language. This was an assimilation policy devised by Japanese government. Basically whatever the languages we use, the nature underlying behind our language expression must be similar. That can't make many differences. If we don't understand each other even if we are refering to the same thing only because of the differences in our language expressions, we can't help but say that it is a sad thing, as well as a pity.
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Hey...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.02.02 15:23 (#14629236) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
Gotta a link to the paper?
--hzs202
Re:Hey...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.03 9:28 (#14634455) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
All right, here [technocrat.net] it is. I don't know you have visited the site before though, this is a nice site for those who love science&technology. Biggest problem right now we face is the colour of sytle sheet especially yellow one-it's too stimulus for us to keep on staying in the same site. I have to retreat from the site if current template kept on. Anyway here is the link.
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Tacit Dimension II
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2006.01.28 12:52
'I respond to my guests with a smile.'
We are encouraged to attach the sticker below the name plate, which says as above only after we feel convinced to be able to do so.
I don't like to attach such a sticker. Because this is just a statement of common sense. We don't attach a sticker which says ' I don't kill humans.' or ' I don't steal money.' These rules belong to our tacit dimension. Everybody knows it's correct, and we daren't to express it's so. I've been already able to practice so naturally, so I find no reason to attach such sticker furthermore.
I don't attach a sticker.
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Okay Mr. Mercedo(Score:2)
by Allen Zadr (767458) <{Allen.Zadr} {at} {gmail.com}> on 2006.01.28 13:29 (#14588681) (Last Journal: 2006.02.15 16:48)
I see you don't have your smile sticker attached yet. You don't seem to have a problem smiling, are you refusing the sticker, simply, to be contrary?
Perhaps the sticker should be given as a reward for following the advise - a postive external statement - as opposed to a self-evaluative measure. It would make employees more willing to wear it.
In my opinion... it's part of a uniform, so I'd suggest not over-analyzing it, and simply treating it as a part of a uniform.
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Re:Okay Mr. Mercedo(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.28 14:06 (#14588844) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
You don't seem to have a problem smiling, are you refusing the sticker, simply, to be contrary?
Yeah, yeah. I guess so.
I consulted my supervisor whether this is compulsory, he said no, it isn't, this ought to be voluntary basis.
I noticed sometimes they use these stickers as a sign of submission. Simply if I had been told to wear a sticker no matter how the reason of it, I would have done so. As a matter of fact, I had worn other stickers in the past, simply I took it for granted that to wear is a part of my job.
The case this time differs from the past case, since they are having us choose whether we wear depending on our decision. They are using this is a touchstone of royalty to the company. Probably majority people believe I am overreacting to such a minor case, and I am fairly flexible about wearing the sticker, though, I strongly warn that this is the beginning of totalitarianism.
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Re:Okay Mr. Mercedo(Score:2)
by Degrees (220395) <degrees@[ ]cast.net ['com' in gap]> on 2006.01.28 14:48 (#14589123) (http://slashdot.org/~Degrees/journal Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:45)
You have just hit upon my favorite Dilbert cartoon [comcast.net]
;-)
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Re:Okay Mr. Mercedo(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.28 15:27 (#14589366) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I just realised that the sticker is not an description of myself, but an indication to other people, here to the customers. So if I wore the sticker, that would help them to know how they can get access to us.
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Re:Okay Mr. Mercedo(Score:2)
by Allen Zadr (767458) <{Allen.Zadr} {at} {gmail.com}> on 2006.01.28 18:39 (#14590488) (Last Journal: 2006.02.15 16:48)
Yes, that's right. But you are also right. If you choose to conform, as a mark of totally free choice - then you choose to be part of the team. So you are right that there is a social-test, as well.
From a customer perspective... if you do not wear such a sticker, then every smile you give, lets others think you are trying hard, because you don't have a sticker yet. But... if you wear the sticker, but don't smile, then people will think that you've gotten your reward, and don't feel the need anymore... In otherwords, the whole point of having a sticker at all detracts from a positive customer experience. Good customer relations for the sake of humanity is replaced by required customer relations for the sake of the corporation.
That's to say.. a bad corporate decision overall. However, this doesn't mean that it isn't worth wearing it to smooth your own relations with the company itself.
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A pity.(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.29 1:06 (#14592033) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
We don't attach a sticker which says ' I don't kill humans.'Which is a shame, because it would make it much easier for me to lure my victims...
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I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Morosoph (693565) on 2006.01.29 9:45 (#14593030) (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tim.wesson/ Last Journal: 2006.02.08 7:38)
Eating people is wrong. [thurb.com]
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.29 20:32 (#14595735) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Eating people is definitely wrong; the average oven just isn't large enough for a torso, and people are very dry without stuffing. Sure, you could just do a rack of ribs and smother it in some commercial barbeque sauce, but that's like burying someone in a McDonalds' burger wrapper...Serve chianti with liver? That's psycho!
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Morosoph (693565) on 2006.01.30 4:23 (#14596980) (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tim.wesson/ Last Journal: 2006.02.08 7:38)
Serve chianti with liver? That's psycho!My Granddad will have strong red wine with anything! Chicken? Red. Fish? Red...
The wrong sauce... Deserves the fires of hell! Don't people realise what they're doing to culture?
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.30 6:46 (#14597248) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Ah, now there's the real question with cannibalism: what is the best way to serve humanity?
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by FidelCatsro (861135) * <fidelcatsroNO@SPAMgmail.com> on 2006.01.31 3:06 (#14605299) (Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:46)
or for the lonely , you could try self service
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.31 9:24 (#14606475) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Finger food?But that reminds me...Much to his mum and dad's dismayHorace ate himself one day.He didn't stop to say his grace,He just sat down and ate his face."We can't have this" his dad declared,"If that lad's ate he should be shared"But even as they watched they sawHorace eating more and more...(Sorry, I can't remember more off the top of my head. And I can't be arsed typing the rest.)
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by FidelCatsro (861135) * <fidelcatsroNO@SPAMgmail.com> on 2006.01.31 10:23 (#14606917) (Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:46)
No idea how it goes but I will guessBut even as they watched they sawHorace eating more and more...To his father then occurred a thoughtdoes he eat his belly or first his gobIf either of these disappear ,he can't even hope to eat no moreSo out of anger his mother did cryThe laws of physics still apply
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.31 20:38 (#14612696) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Well, I can't remember the middle bit, but the end goes:'Til there he lay, a boy no moreJust a stomach on the floor.Nonetheless, since it was hisThey ate it...that's what haggis is.Its from Monty Python's* Big Red Book, a send-up of Hillaire Belloc. Physics whas never a concern, but not a bad guess.(*Does not being able to fully quote a passage of Python mean I have to turn in my nerd badge?)
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Re:A pity.(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.30 11:22 (#14599018) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Exactly. I don't want to wear the sticker for the same reason. It's a shame. By and large, if I didn't respond to my customer with a smile, he would complain about me, it is regardless of whether I wear the sticker. We ought to welcome our customer with a smile at any time. But the presence of sticker under the name card just shows how the hosts were mean and didn't know such a basic manner.
Indeed this is a punishment. I don't wear the sticker unless our supervisor told us it's compulsory.
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Re:A pity.(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.31 8:43 (#14606245) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
I agree. I think stickers like that are demeaning to the person required to wear them, and leaves the customer feeling that any courtesy they receive comes from fear rather than a genuine desire to provide good service.I suppose it makes the management look like they're doing something, though...
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Put the sticker on upside down(Score:2)
by tomhudson (43916) <hudson@nospAM.groupehudson.com> on 2006.01.30 18:34 (#14602883) (http://groupehudson.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.26 11:10)
--- and frown at everyone. "A smile is a frown turned upside down."
... so "a frown is a smile because this sticker makes me vile."
--stupid warning signs [slashdot.org]
Re:Put the sticker on upside down(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.01 7:25 (#14614786) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Haha.. I will try. Every time people see it, they will point out that it's upside down.
Then I will reply.
It's not for my customers but for me.
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2006.01.28 12:52
'I respond to my guests with a smile.'
We are encouraged to attach the sticker below the name plate, which says as above only after we feel convinced to be able to do so.
I don't like to attach such a sticker. Because this is just a statement of common sense. We don't attach a sticker which says ' I don't kill humans.' or ' I don't steal money.' These rules belong to our tacit dimension. Everybody knows it's correct, and we daren't to express it's so. I've been already able to practice so naturally, so I find no reason to attach such sticker furthermore.
I don't attach a sticker.
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Okay Mr. Mercedo(Score:2)
by Allen Zadr (767458) <{Allen.Zadr} {at} {gmail.com}> on 2006.01.28 13:29 (#14588681) (Last Journal: 2006.02.15 16:48)
I see you don't have your smile sticker attached yet. You don't seem to have a problem smiling, are you refusing the sticker, simply, to be contrary?
Perhaps the sticker should be given as a reward for following the advise - a postive external statement - as opposed to a self-evaluative measure. It would make employees more willing to wear it.
In my opinion... it's part of a uniform, so I'd suggest not over-analyzing it, and simply treating it as a part of a uniform.
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Re:Okay Mr. Mercedo(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.28 14:06 (#14588844) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
You don't seem to have a problem smiling, are you refusing the sticker, simply, to be contrary?
Yeah, yeah. I guess so.
I consulted my supervisor whether this is compulsory, he said no, it isn't, this ought to be voluntary basis.
I noticed sometimes they use these stickers as a sign of submission. Simply if I had been told to wear a sticker no matter how the reason of it, I would have done so. As a matter of fact, I had worn other stickers in the past, simply I took it for granted that to wear is a part of my job.
The case this time differs from the past case, since they are having us choose whether we wear depending on our decision. They are using this is a touchstone of royalty to the company. Probably majority people believe I am overreacting to such a minor case, and I am fairly flexible about wearing the sticker, though, I strongly warn that this is the beginning of totalitarianism.
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Re:Okay Mr. Mercedo(Score:2)
by Degrees (220395) <degrees@[ ]cast.net ['com' in gap]> on 2006.01.28 14:48 (#14589123) (http://slashdot.org/~Degrees/journal Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:45)
You have just hit upon my favorite Dilbert cartoon [comcast.net]
;-)
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Re:Okay Mr. Mercedo(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.28 15:27 (#14589366) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I just realised that the sticker is not an description of myself, but an indication to other people, here to the customers. So if I wore the sticker, that would help them to know how they can get access to us.
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Re:Okay Mr. Mercedo(Score:2)
by Allen Zadr (767458) <{Allen.Zadr} {at} {gmail.com}> on 2006.01.28 18:39 (#14590488) (Last Journal: 2006.02.15 16:48)
Yes, that's right. But you are also right. If you choose to conform, as a mark of totally free choice - then you choose to be part of the team. So you are right that there is a social-test, as well.
From a customer perspective... if you do not wear such a sticker, then every smile you give, lets others think you are trying hard, because you don't have a sticker yet. But... if you wear the sticker, but don't smile, then people will think that you've gotten your reward, and don't feel the need anymore... In otherwords, the whole point of having a sticker at all detracts from a positive customer experience. Good customer relations for the sake of humanity is replaced by required customer relations for the sake of the corporation.
That's to say.. a bad corporate decision overall. However, this doesn't mean that it isn't worth wearing it to smooth your own relations with the company itself.
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A pity.(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.29 1:06 (#14592033) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
We don't attach a sticker which says ' I don't kill humans.'Which is a shame, because it would make it much easier for me to lure my victims...
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I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Morosoph (693565) on 2006.01.29 9:45 (#14593030) (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tim.wesson/ Last Journal: 2006.02.08 7:38)
Eating people is wrong. [thurb.com]
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.29 20:32 (#14595735) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Eating people is definitely wrong; the average oven just isn't large enough for a torso, and people are very dry without stuffing. Sure, you could just do a rack of ribs and smother it in some commercial barbeque sauce, but that's like burying someone in a McDonalds' burger wrapper...Serve chianti with liver? That's psycho!
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Morosoph (693565) on 2006.01.30 4:23 (#14596980) (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tim.wesson/ Last Journal: 2006.02.08 7:38)
Serve chianti with liver? That's psycho!My Granddad will have strong red wine with anything! Chicken? Red. Fish? Red...
The wrong sauce... Deserves the fires of hell! Don't people realise what they're doing to culture?
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.30 6:46 (#14597248) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Ah, now there's the real question with cannibalism: what is the best way to serve humanity?
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by FidelCatsro (861135) * <fidelcatsroNO@SPAMgmail.com> on 2006.01.31 3:06 (#14605299) (Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:46)
or for the lonely , you could try self service
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.31 9:24 (#14606475) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Finger food?But that reminds me...Much to his mum and dad's dismayHorace ate himself one day.He didn't stop to say his grace,He just sat down and ate his face."We can't have this" his dad declared,"If that lad's ate he should be shared"But even as they watched they sawHorace eating more and more...(Sorry, I can't remember more off the top of my head. And I can't be arsed typing the rest.)
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by FidelCatsro (861135) * <fidelcatsroNO@SPAMgmail.com> on 2006.01.31 10:23 (#14606917) (Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:46)
No idea how it goes but I will guessBut even as they watched they sawHorace eating more and more...To his father then occurred a thoughtdoes he eat his belly or first his gobIf either of these disappear ,he can't even hope to eat no moreSo out of anger his mother did cryThe laws of physics still apply
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Re:I don't eat people(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.31 20:38 (#14612696) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Well, I can't remember the middle bit, but the end goes:'Til there he lay, a boy no moreJust a stomach on the floor.Nonetheless, since it was hisThey ate it...that's what haggis is.Its from Monty Python's* Big Red Book, a send-up of Hillaire Belloc. Physics whas never a concern, but not a bad guess.(*Does not being able to fully quote a passage of Python mean I have to turn in my nerd badge?)
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Re:A pity.(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.30 11:22 (#14599018) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Exactly. I don't want to wear the sticker for the same reason. It's a shame. By and large, if I didn't respond to my customer with a smile, he would complain about me, it is regardless of whether I wear the sticker. We ought to welcome our customer with a smile at any time. But the presence of sticker under the name card just shows how the hosts were mean and didn't know such a basic manner.
Indeed this is a punishment. I don't wear the sticker unless our supervisor told us it's compulsory.
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Re:A pity.(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.31 8:43 (#14606245) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
I agree. I think stickers like that are demeaning to the person required to wear them, and leaves the customer feeling that any courtesy they receive comes from fear rather than a genuine desire to provide good service.I suppose it makes the management look like they're doing something, though...
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Put the sticker on upside down(Score:2)
by tomhudson (43916) <hudson@nospAM.groupehudson.com> on 2006.01.30 18:34 (#14602883) (http://groupehudson.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.26 11:10)
--- and frown at everyone. "A smile is a frown turned upside down."
... so "a frown is a smile because this sticker makes me vile."
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Re:Put the sticker on upside down(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.01 7:25 (#14614786) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Haha.. I will try. Every time people see it, they will point out that it's upside down.
Then I will reply.
It's not for my customers but for me.
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Turn Of The Week
Turn Of The Week
2006.01.28 11:45
One week ago I took one day off. I will keep on working without taking a rest till next Saturday.
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Deregulation
Deregulation
2006.01.27 15:29
Deregulation in the field of stock market in Japan has been in progress. Now almost the half of shares are owned by individuals in which 80% are dealt with in the Internet.
However Japan's Security and Exchange Committee remains to be just one of the subdivision of Financial Agency. It is not an independent organisation. SEC couldn't work well to keep the healthy state of the stockmarket, so Tokyo Local Prosecutor's Office -Japan's strongest investigative Body directly arrested Horiemon in charge of stockmarket fraud, which is very unusual. I still believe arrest of Horiemon in this case is very political. Liberal Democratic Party and Horiemon represent liberal, progressive forces in Japan. Tokyo Prosecutors Office happened to play a reactionary role, aside from his apparent violation in related laws.
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Deregulation in the field of stock market in Japan has been in progress. Now almost the half of shares are owned by individuals in which 80% are dealt with in the Internet.
However Japan's Security and Exchange Committee remains to be just one of the subdivision of Financial Agency. It is not an independent organisation. SEC couldn't work well to keep the healthy state of the stockmarket, so Tokyo Local Prosecutor's Office -Japan's strongest investigative Body directly arrested Horiemon in charge of stockmarket fraud, which is very unusual. I still believe arrest of Horiemon in this case is very political. Liberal Democratic Party and Horiemon represent liberal, progressive forces in Japan. Tokyo Prosecutors Office happened to play a reactionary role, aside from his apparent violation in related laws.
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Resistance
Resistance
2006.01.27 14:51
While I was listening to a dialogue between a supervisor and a newbie.
'Why have you resisted me?'
'I haven't resisted you.'
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2006.01.27 14:51
While I was listening to a dialogue between a supervisor and a newbie.
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'I haven't resisted you.'
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Famous
Famous
2006.01.27 14:47
Some people think it is very difficult to be famous, I mean in good sense, but it seems to me that already famous people are always thinking of how not to be known to other people.
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sad but true(Score:1)
by weierstrass (669421) on 2006.01.28 21:48 (#14591378) (http://retropolitan.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.23 14:39)
if all you want is fame, not money, recognition of your talent, respect etc, it's extremely easy to achieve:just commit some horrible crime; murder / rape / cannibalism on a large scale / to loved ones / very vulnerable people etc. you will become famous.so when people tell me their ambition is fame, i think they are actually seeking something else.
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Re:sad but true(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.30 11:48 (#14599253) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Ordinary world -this is where we live. For those who are extremely talented, it is very easy to be famous for something favourable. So naturally they started thinking of how not to be famous since it is the one that requires them to make an effort. On the other hands, some people who are less talented still feel it's paramount for them to be notorious -don't know how to achieve something meaningful, instead they think if they commit some wrondoing upon others who are famous, that makes him automatically notorious. That's the very reason why already famous people are so eager not to be in public.
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sad but true(Score:1)
by weierstrass (669421) on 2006.01.28 21:48 (#14591378) (http://retropolitan.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.23 14:39)
if all you want is fame, not money, recognition of your talent, respect etc, it's extremely easy to achieve:just commit some horrible crime; murder / rape / cannibalism on a large scale / to loved ones / very vulnerable people etc. you will become famous.so when people tell me their ambition is fame, i think they are actually seeking something else.
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Re:sad but true(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.30 11:48 (#14599253) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Ordinary world -this is where we live. For those who are extremely talented, it is very easy to be famous for something favourable. So naturally they started thinking of how not to be famous since it is the one that requires them to make an effort. On the other hands, some people who are less talented still feel it's paramount for them to be notorious -don't know how to achieve something meaningful, instead they think if they commit some wrondoing upon others who are famous, that makes him automatically notorious. That's the very reason why already famous people are so eager not to be in public.
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A List
A List
2006.01.27 14:36
Miss A -- 26 hrs
Mr B -- 8 hrs
Miss C -- 7 hrs
Mrs D -- 7 hrs
Actually this was a list of how not to have part-time workers overwork.
Miss A was accused of overworking too many hours in a month, I defended her in the presence of other people and encouraged to her that I could only see this is a list of workers who worked very hard.
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Miss A -- 26 hrs
Mr B -- 8 hrs
Miss C -- 7 hrs
Mrs D -- 7 hrs
Actually this was a list of how not to have part-time workers overwork.
Miss A was accused of overworking too many hours in a month, I defended her in the presence of other people and encouraged to her that I could only see this is a list of workers who worked very hard.
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The Words Of Horiemon
The words of Horiemon
On mass media --
'It is O.K. for us to buy the first information by money.'
On TV --
'Is there any publicity in TV?'
'I'm going to seek for an agglomeration of TV and the Internet.'
On Politics --
'I want to be a prime minister of Japan.'
On Law --
'I can become God in rules I made.'
Morality Of War
Morality Of War
2006.01.24 12:50
War means killing each other. There must be no morality in it. But in fact there is a morality of war. First thing. War has to be a last resort. War has to be started after all possible peaceful means turned to be useless. So first, diplomacy, then eventually after ultimatum was not accepted, only war starts.
War has to be held between militaries. No civilians ought to be hurt from the battle, however, it is just an ideal of war act. How about using a radicon helicopter like this. Yesterday motor and piano company Yamaha was raided from police whether their shipment of this product to China is violating a law prohibiting an exporting of weaponry.
If the aim of war is to minimise the damage of our side and maximise the damage of their side, unmanned weaponry meets these demands, but how about the morality of war? Here's the related article from BBC.
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Just War Theory(Score:2)
by Stargoat (658863) <the.troll.game@gmail.com> on 2006.01.24 13:29 (#14550122) (Last Journal: 2006.02.22 8:46)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_War_Theory [wikipedia.org]
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Re:Just War Theory(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.01.26 12:04 (#14569081) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
I reject the Just War theory. While it is best to avoid war where it can reasonably be avoided, when it does come it is best to use as much force as you can possibly bring to bear. Preferably such overwhelming violence that the enemy is not just defeated, but demoralized and crushed so severely (psychologically, if not physically) that they literally will be willing to even contemplate acting against you in the future.However, while being ruthless in war, it is also important to be magnaminous in victory. Leave no mistake in the minds of the losers that they lost and that military action against you is ill-advised in the future, but be nice enough that they can realize the benefits of being nice back so that they won't want to attack you in the future anyways.
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Re:Just War Theory(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.26 12:46 (#14569678) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Thanks for the link. It will take some time for me to conceive some idea from this useful article, when I could do, I would like to write an article about it.
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In Washington DC(Score:2)
by Allen Zadr (767458) * <{Allen.Zadr} {at} {gmail.com}> on 2006.01.24 14:09 (#14550500) (Last Journal: 2006.02.15 16:48)
In the south inner chamber (the old house chamber) of the Captol building (where few are allowed to go these days), there is a statue [aoc.gov]. The rattle snake in this statue represents war. A rattlesnake never attacks unless provoked, and never without warning (by shaking it's tail), but when it does attack, it does so quickly, and fiercely.
I think our government does not take the time to actually look at the clues left for them by those who came before them.
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Re:In Washington DC(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.26 12:38 (#14569561) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I still remember the days to visit Washington D.C. It was many years ago at age 25. I stayed for a week in an apartment of a friend of mine who were majoring in public administration in American University. We took sightseeing tour by bus, and we went to see around many monuments there. I still remember the big statue of Lincoln sitting on the chair. It was very impressive.
I don't know when I can visit Washington D.C. again, though, I would like to visit inside Capitol Hill to see these statues.
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civilians(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.01.24 15:09 (#14550987) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
The notion of not attacking civilians is really quite a recent development. Indeed, historically it used to be a chief tactic to attack civilian populations, usually for the purpose of extermination or enslavement.Is the modern way "better"? Well, for those of us who are civilians, yes, it is better we not be indiscriminately slaughtered. But in terms of military and political effectiveness of the militaries involved, it may not be.It is a matter of morality that we don't attack civilians, but as Stargoat mentioned in a recent JE of his, morality changes over time. And some groups DO attack civilians (al-Qaeda, for example). But then al-Qaeda is still stuck in the era when that was the standard practice, socially, politically, religiously, militarily, they are throwbacks to a millinea ago. And their morality not only allows attacking civilians, but demands it.
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Re:civilians(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.26 11:43 (#14568739) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
If we thought there's a morality in war, probably we would be mislead. There's no morality in war in the first place, which means anything's possible to overcome our enemy. If we thought so, everything is explicable. Unmanned weaponry is second to none as a means to win the war.
As you pointed out, massacre has always been taken place in the history of war. Relatively recently in Rwanda, Serbia, Kosovo, in Europe during World War II under German occupation, in Nanjin China under Japanese occupation, etc. They were not just a result of the regional battle between two militalies, but a denial of right to live, meant to be devised as a total annihilation attempt of one people by another.
So if we sought a morality in war, probably we would face an inconsistency in it, it would be better for us to take it for granted that war is far from morality. Therefore we ought to avoid war first and foremost. This is the most important task for those who live in the peace time.
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Re:civilians(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.01.26 11:57 (#14568978) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
Have you read "The Art of War" by Sun-Tzu? He also prefers to avoid military conflict as much as possible. Not going to war is his first rule of war!Of course, one might suggest that warfare is a means of population control - when populations get too large, their resource demands increase and it becomes cheaper to just take resources by force than to purchase them. War kills off some amount of the population, decreasing the resource needs and allowing again for peaceful means of acquisition to become cheaper.Or that could just be a bunch of hokey. You decide :-)
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Re:civilians(Score:2)
by Allen Zadr (767458) <{Allen.Zadr} {at} {gmail.com}> on 2006.01.26 13:33 (#14570346) (Last Journal: 2006.02.15 16:48)
There is a point where this could come into play - however, at our current growth rates, we are killing ourselves off.
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Damage(Score:1)
by DisownedSky (905171) * <disownedsky@e[ ]hlink.net ['art' in gap]> on 2006.01.25 9:08 (#14556997) (http://home.earthlink.net/~disownedsky Last Journal: 2006.02.22 10:32)
War isn't about maximizing damage. That is just the means to an end, and not always an effective means. Sometimes more focused, less general damage is much more effective, as witness Hitler's strategic blunder in the battle of Britain.
The aim of war( outside of pure animal aggression) as I see it, is to impose your will on your enemy, or to prevent him from imposing his will on you.
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Re:Damage(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.26 11:50 (#14568850) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
The aim of war( outside of pure animal aggression) as I see it, is to impose your will on your enemy, or to prevent him from imposing his will on you.
Yeah, exactly. This describes the psychological phase of all wars.
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2006.01.24 12:50
War means killing each other. There must be no morality in it. But in fact there is a morality of war. First thing. War has to be a last resort. War has to be started after all possible peaceful means turned to be useless. So first, diplomacy, then eventually after ultimatum was not accepted, only war starts.
War has to be held between militaries. No civilians ought to be hurt from the battle, however, it is just an ideal of war act. How about using a radicon helicopter like this. Yesterday motor and piano company Yamaha was raided from police whether their shipment of this product to China is violating a law prohibiting an exporting of weaponry.
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Just War Theory(Score:2)
by Stargoat (658863) <the.troll.game@gmail.com> on 2006.01.24 13:29 (#14550122) (Last Journal: 2006.02.22 8:46)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_War_Theory [wikipedia.org]
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Re:Just War Theory(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.01.26 12:04 (#14569081) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
I reject the Just War theory. While it is best to avoid war where it can reasonably be avoided, when it does come it is best to use as much force as you can possibly bring to bear. Preferably such overwhelming violence that the enemy is not just defeated, but demoralized and crushed so severely (psychologically, if not physically) that they literally will be willing to even contemplate acting against you in the future.However, while being ruthless in war, it is also important to be magnaminous in victory. Leave no mistake in the minds of the losers that they lost and that military action against you is ill-advised in the future, but be nice enough that they can realize the benefits of being nice back so that they won't want to attack you in the future anyways.
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Re:Just War Theory(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.26 12:46 (#14569678) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Thanks for the link. It will take some time for me to conceive some idea from this useful article, when I could do, I would like to write an article about it.
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In Washington DC(Score:2)
by Allen Zadr (767458) * <{Allen.Zadr} {at} {gmail.com}> on 2006.01.24 14:09 (#14550500) (Last Journal: 2006.02.15 16:48)
In the south inner chamber (the old house chamber) of the Captol building (where few are allowed to go these days), there is a statue [aoc.gov]. The rattle snake in this statue represents war. A rattlesnake never attacks unless provoked, and never without warning (by shaking it's tail), but when it does attack, it does so quickly, and fiercely.
I think our government does not take the time to actually look at the clues left for them by those who came before them.
--Truth and honesty can be compatible with sales and business, it's people who choose otherwise.
Re:In Washington DC(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.26 12:38 (#14569561) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I still remember the days to visit Washington D.C. It was many years ago at age 25. I stayed for a week in an apartment of a friend of mine who were majoring in public administration in American University. We took sightseeing tour by bus, and we went to see around many monuments there. I still remember the big statue of Lincoln sitting on the chair. It was very impressive.
I don't know when I can visit Washington D.C. again, though, I would like to visit inside Capitol Hill to see these statues.
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civilians(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.01.24 15:09 (#14550987) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
The notion of not attacking civilians is really quite a recent development. Indeed, historically it used to be a chief tactic to attack civilian populations, usually for the purpose of extermination or enslavement.Is the modern way "better"? Well, for those of us who are civilians, yes, it is better we not be indiscriminately slaughtered. But in terms of military and political effectiveness of the militaries involved, it may not be.It is a matter of morality that we don't attack civilians, but as Stargoat mentioned in a recent JE of his, morality changes over time. And some groups DO attack civilians (al-Qaeda, for example). But then al-Qaeda is still stuck in the era when that was the standard practice, socially, politically, religiously, militarily, they are throwbacks to a millinea ago. And their morality not only allows attacking civilians, but demands it.
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Re:civilians(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.26 11:43 (#14568739) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
If we thought there's a morality in war, probably we would be mislead. There's no morality in war in the first place, which means anything's possible to overcome our enemy. If we thought so, everything is explicable. Unmanned weaponry is second to none as a means to win the war.
As you pointed out, massacre has always been taken place in the history of war. Relatively recently in Rwanda, Serbia, Kosovo, in Europe during World War II under German occupation, in Nanjin China under Japanese occupation, etc. They were not just a result of the regional battle between two militalies, but a denial of right to live, meant to be devised as a total annihilation attempt of one people by another.
So if we sought a morality in war, probably we would face an inconsistency in it, it would be better for us to take it for granted that war is far from morality. Therefore we ought to avoid war first and foremost. This is the most important task for those who live in the peace time.
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Re:civilians(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.01.26 11:57 (#14568978) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
Have you read "The Art of War" by Sun-Tzu? He also prefers to avoid military conflict as much as possible. Not going to war is his first rule of war!Of course, one might suggest that warfare is a means of population control - when populations get too large, their resource demands increase and it becomes cheaper to just take resources by force than to purchase them. War kills off some amount of the population, decreasing the resource needs and allowing again for peaceful means of acquisition to become cheaper.Or that could just be a bunch of hokey. You decide :-)
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Re:civilians(Score:2)
by Allen Zadr (767458) <{Allen.Zadr} {at} {gmail.com}> on 2006.01.26 13:33 (#14570346) (Last Journal: 2006.02.15 16:48)
There is a point where this could come into play - however, at our current growth rates, we are killing ourselves off.
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Damage(Score:1)
by DisownedSky (905171) * <disownedsky@e[ ]hlink.net ['art' in gap]> on 2006.01.25 9:08 (#14556997) (http://home.earthlink.net/~disownedsky Last Journal: 2006.02.22 10:32)
War isn't about maximizing damage. That is just the means to an end, and not always an effective means. Sometimes more focused, less general damage is much more effective, as witness Hitler's strategic blunder in the battle of Britain.
The aim of war( outside of pure animal aggression) as I see it, is to impose your will on your enemy, or to prevent him from imposing his will on you.
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Re:Damage(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.26 11:50 (#14568850) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
The aim of war( outside of pure animal aggression) as I see it, is to impose your will on your enemy, or to prevent him from imposing his will on you.
Yeah, exactly. This describes the psychological phase of all wars.
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Disappointment
Disappointment
2006.01.23 11:08
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One day passed. I opened my account again. My comment was modded down, down to 2. 5-2=3. 4 moderaters modded up first, then other 3 moderaters modded down later.
I made a comment in other articles in the main page, in the hope of many people watch my name and journals, and hopefully my comment mod up again that will eventually lead to my Karma score up. My Karma was Positive. It took eight months to be positive. The next one will be Excellent, if I kept on my comments being modded up, I will get an Excellent Karma.
The result was, overated. I was modded down from 1 to 0. At the same time my Karma went down to Neutral, I assume because my comment was modded down four times.
Conclusion: I'd better not post a comment in the main page.
I start with Neutral again.
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you forgot Good(Score:1)
by weierstrass (669421) on 2006.01.23 13:14 (#14541121) (http://retropolitan.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.23 14:39)
Good comes between Positive and Excellent.
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Re:you forgot Good(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.24 9:47 (#14548154) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I just started the long way to reach Excellent through Positive, Good, from Neutral. It's hard to go forward but easier to get back.
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Dude...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.23 16:18 (#14543092) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
Don't worry so much about Slashdot moderations... they're rigged anyway. Just keep pushing those witty comments I love to read, yeah... the ones with a hint of poetry driving the satirical punch-line. That's the mercedo we all have grown to love.
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Re:Dude...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.24 9:52 (#14548187) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Just thanks, thanks.
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2006.01.23 11:08
Yesterday I posted a comment in the main page. My comment was modded up, up to 5, Insightful, of course I was glad.
One day passed. I opened my account again. My comment was modded down, down to 2. 5-2=3. 4 moderaters modded up first, then other 3 moderaters modded down later.
I made a comment in other articles in the main page, in the hope of many people watch my name and journals, and hopefully my comment mod up again that will eventually lead to my Karma score up. My Karma was Positive. It took eight months to be positive. The next one will be Excellent, if I kept on my comments being modded up, I will get an Excellent Karma.
The result was, overated. I was modded down from 1 to 0. At the same time my Karma went down to Neutral, I assume because my comment was modded down four times.
Conclusion: I'd better not post a comment in the main page.
I start with Neutral again.
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you forgot Good(Score:1)
by weierstrass (669421) on 2006.01.23 13:14 (#14541121) (http://retropolitan.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.23 14:39)
Good comes between Positive and Excellent.
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Re:you forgot Good(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.24 9:47 (#14548154) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I just started the long way to reach Excellent through Positive, Good, from Neutral. It's hard to go forward but easier to get back.
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Dude...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.23 16:18 (#14543092) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
Don't worry so much about Slashdot moderations... they're rigged anyway. Just keep pushing those witty comments I love to read, yeah... the ones with a hint of poetry driving the satirical punch-line. That's the mercedo we all have grown to love.
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Re:Dude...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.24 9:52 (#14548187) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Just thanks, thanks.
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The Internet
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Those who rule the Internet rule the world.
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Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.22 21:01 (#14535685) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
There has never before been an empire that can be switched off.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by JorgeDeLaCancha (913036) on 2006.01.23 0:48 (#14536696) (Last Journal: 2006.01.23 0:59)
For now at least. I personally see it as the internet becomes more important to vital infastructure in different countries, *cough*USA*cough, more redundancy will possibly be put in place if the government deems it necesarry. Also @mercedo: Have you read The World Is Flat by Friedman? link [amazon.com]
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.23 8:10 (#14538287) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
No. I had a quite coverage of reading classics, I don't know who he is. I try browsing his book. I will respond after I read it.
As to my assertion, whoever say whatever I think the importance of the Internet will increase more and more. You see we are communicating through this tiny window to the world. This fact amaze me a lot.
You know why we say 'The Internet'? I know it's a silly question to native speakers. We put 'the' in front of the only one thing. The Earth, the moon, the Sun. The Internet is only one, so who rules the Internet really counts for all.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by JorgeDeLaCancha (913036) on 2006.01.25 0:53 (#14554954) (Last Journal: 2006.01.23 0:59)
From what I have read of the book, it deals with globilization and how the world is going to become an equall playing field for everyone with an education. For example, some doctors send their X-Rays to be read by other Doctors overnight in India, thank you Internet.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.23 7:50 (#14538203) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
That's right. Probably if I say Those who rule the Internet rule the world, it is a little bit exaggarated or hyperbolic, illusory or imaginary, hypothetical but, partly true. Probably I would be able to say replaceably that Those who rule the Internet will also rule many important entities like finance, politics, academy, communication, information as well so naturally they will rule the world.
We are certainly not sure what will come after the possible downfall of the Internet, though, at that time the Internet will also change its nature as we see now.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.23 16:02 (#14542901) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Actually, I think you're right; those who rule the world now already rule the internet. Governments have the power to legislate and monitor their citizens, and major telecommunications companies have the power to disconnect entire countries. I don't see this situation changing without a major redistribution of wealth, but this goes against the current trends.I don't think the internet will collapse unless technological society does (the net was designed to survive a nuclear war, after all). It will continue to evolve, though, and will be as different to today in 25 years as it was 25 years ago; Slashdot is a world away from the 80-column green monitor I was staring at back then. I'm waiting with interest.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.23 16:35 (#14543251) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
I'll go one step further..."Those who can hack the Internet rule the world" (H. Singhji).
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Re:Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.23 18:47 (#14544421) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Not the world, just selected little corners, and then only until they're discovered; you can't rule in a hit-and-run fashion, but you can be very, very annoying. Which is fortunate, because I fear this may eventually become democracy's only hope.But I could be wrong, in which case let me be the first to welcome our Russian porn-spamming overlords ;)
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.23 23:08 (#14545994) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
Oh... I don't mean "hack" in the sense of script kiddies and malicious code floating endlessly on gnutella! Oh no... I'm talking about real hacking, the kind that develops integrated systems with a pretty Java front-end and scalable oracle back-end. ATM's will be obsolete before I die, and you can quote me.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.24 0:23 (#14546308) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
I see. I don't know...don't those coders work for other, better paid people (when their jobs aren't being off-shored)? I mean, their work will be essential, but I have no reason to believe they'll be in any greater position of power than, say, garbage men (who are shown very little respect, considering they are the first line of disease prevention in society). That might sound harsh, but its just the nature of the labor market.I think you're probably right about ATMs; chances are we will be the last generation to use cash on a regular basis, though I imagine governments will keep some of the old fashioned life-support tokens ready for emergencies like earthquakes, floods, or the need to quickly depart to the Cocos Islands.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.24 11:20 (#14548854) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
I mean, their work will be essential, but I have no reason to believe they'll be in any greater position of power than, say, garbage men (who are shown very little respect, considering they are the first line of disease prevention in society).No you are right... infact some schools at NYU restructuring. What does all of this mean? Well it has been said in not so many words that programmers however essential come in droves. By next semester there will be a new Information Systems program and it will focus networking (security, programming, managment, etc.)instead of apps dev. Apparently, the market is over-saturated... so where exactly does that leave a 3 year college student concentrating on application development? I don't know... and frankly I becoming a little nervous.
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Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.22 21:01 (#14535685) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
There has never before been an empire that can be switched off.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by JorgeDeLaCancha (913036) on 2006.01.23 0:48 (#14536696) (Last Journal: 2006.01.23 0:59)
For now at least. I personally see it as the internet becomes more important to vital infastructure in different countries, *cough*USA*cough, more redundancy will possibly be put in place if the government deems it necesarry. Also @mercedo: Have you read The World Is Flat by Friedman? link [amazon.com]
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.23 8:10 (#14538287) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
No. I had a quite coverage of reading classics, I don't know who he is. I try browsing his book. I will respond after I read it.
As to my assertion, whoever say whatever I think the importance of the Internet will increase more and more. You see we are communicating through this tiny window to the world. This fact amaze me a lot.
You know why we say 'The Internet'? I know it's a silly question to native speakers. We put 'the' in front of the only one thing. The Earth, the moon, the Sun. The Internet is only one, so who rules the Internet really counts for all.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by JorgeDeLaCancha (913036) on 2006.01.25 0:53 (#14554954) (Last Journal: 2006.01.23 0:59)
From what I have read of the book, it deals with globilization and how the world is going to become an equall playing field for everyone with an education. For example, some doctors send their X-Rays to be read by other Doctors overnight in India, thank you Internet.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.23 7:50 (#14538203) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
That's right. Probably if I say Those who rule the Internet rule the world, it is a little bit exaggarated or hyperbolic, illusory or imaginary, hypothetical but, partly true. Probably I would be able to say replaceably that Those who rule the Internet will also rule many important entities like finance, politics, academy, communication, information as well so naturally they will rule the world.
We are certainly not sure what will come after the possible downfall of the Internet, though, at that time the Internet will also change its nature as we see now.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.23 16:02 (#14542901) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Actually, I think you're right; those who rule the world now already rule the internet. Governments have the power to legislate and monitor their citizens, and major telecommunications companies have the power to disconnect entire countries. I don't see this situation changing without a major redistribution of wealth, but this goes against the current trends.I don't think the internet will collapse unless technological society does (the net was designed to survive a nuclear war, after all). It will continue to evolve, though, and will be as different to today in 25 years as it was 25 years ago; Slashdot is a world away from the 80-column green monitor I was staring at back then. I'm waiting with interest.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.23 16:35 (#14543251) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
I'll go one step further..."Those who can hack the Internet rule the world" (H. Singhji).
--hzs202[ Parent ]
Re:Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.23 18:47 (#14544421) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Not the world, just selected little corners, and then only until they're discovered; you can't rule in a hit-and-run fashion, but you can be very, very annoying. Which is fortunate, because I fear this may eventually become democracy's only hope.But I could be wrong, in which case let me be the first to welcome our Russian porn-spamming overlords ;)
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.23 23:08 (#14545994) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
Oh... I don't mean "hack" in the sense of script kiddies and malicious code floating endlessly on gnutella! Oh no... I'm talking about real hacking, the kind that develops integrated systems with a pretty Java front-end and scalable oracle back-end. ATM's will be obsolete before I die, and you can quote me.
--hzs202[ Parent ]
Re:Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.24 0:23 (#14546308) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
I see. I don't know...don't those coders work for other, better paid people (when their jobs aren't being off-shored)? I mean, their work will be essential, but I have no reason to believe they'll be in any greater position of power than, say, garbage men (who are shown very little respect, considering they are the first line of disease prevention in society). That might sound harsh, but its just the nature of the labor market.I think you're probably right about ATMs; chances are we will be the last generation to use cash on a regular basis, though I imagine governments will keep some of the old fashioned life-support tokens ready for emergencies like earthquakes, floods, or the need to quickly depart to the Cocos Islands.
--The difficulties nerds have with the world stem from the fact that not all problems can be solved by nerdery.[ Parent ]
Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.24 11:20 (#14548854) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
I mean, their work will be essential, but I have no reason to believe they'll be in any greater position of power than, say, garbage men (who are shown very little respect, considering they are the first line of disease prevention in society).No you are right... infact some schools at NYU restructuring. What does all of this mean? Well it has been said in not so many words that programmers however essential come in droves. By next semester there will be a new Information Systems program and it will focus networking (security, programming, managment, etc.)instead of apps dev. Apparently, the market is over-saturated... so where exactly does that leave a 3 year college student concentrating on application development? I don't know... and frankly I becoming a little nervous.
--hzs202[ Parent ]
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