Formation of Economic Bloc, with whom?
2004.12.01 23:25

Is there any Americans who are interested in economy in East Asia? I don't think there are many. If you were residents of the Pacific coastal states, you might have some interest, but not much. Like many states in America, we have also scarce interest in the neighbouring countries. Today America's influence has been about to surpass everything here and we feel how just enormous America's presence here is in economy, in culture, in military. Day by day...
However traditionally relationship with China and Korea are kin to us. Here I try to draw out our future relashionship with the Pacific Rim countries including China.
China's economy has been growing very rapidly-10% plus by year. China is now substantially a capitalist country-state capitalism instead of using the term state socialism. In fact China's coastal area has been showing some similarity with East Asia capitalist countries, in landscape, in social structure, in fashion, mode...
China's geographically unbelievably near to Japan. But chasm between two countries is not very easy to be filled. -Fortunately, unlike the cases of other two adjacent countries, big deep sea is between us. So basically, we keep independence and can evade heinous conflicts.
By the way.. you know Japan has its free trade agreement with Singapore and Mexico already. The Philipines's going to be the next one for sure. Japan is going to have a free trade agreement with such countries as located in a Pacific Rim. Even though China is very close to Japan geographically, ONLY AFTER Japan had such agreement with the rest of the Pasific Rim countries such as Australia, New Zealand, Chile, Peru, US Pacific States( Washington, Oregon, California, Alaska, Hawaii ), Canada, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philipines, Taiwan, and even with Viet Num, then China will allow to be a participant of this free trade agreement not just as a participant but as a leader- instead of Japan. Japan will concede the leader's role to China.
Compared with China, Japan is in its size, population, let alone in natural resourses, even in potential economy, cannot compete. China is more than ten-times larger than Japan in any aspect. Japan cannot compete with China from the beginning. China, instead of Japan, is going to be the leader of these countries and areas.
I mean formation of East Asian Economic Bloc is NOT ahead of that of Pacific Rim's, and means almost nothing to America. Japan has been playing a subordinate role in world economy behind US and EU so far and will play again the similar role in future economy behind US, EU and China. Japan always plays a subordinate role and never be able to be a front runner. As a small island country, it's destiny.
These are my predictions at least after more 50 years to come. At the same time, during 50 years to come, national border now we have will lose its meaning as it has.
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Actually, I see it as a dangerous development(Score:2)
by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@seeberfamily.org> on 2004.12.02 4:04 (#10965479) (http://www.informationr.us/ Last Journal: 2005.09.24 5:50)
Free Trade in an Eastern Economic Bloc would eventually destroy America- and bring us one step closer to becoming Oceania of Orwellian fame. I don't see any way to prevent it however, except to destroy the WTO itself.Free trade is great if you're a millionaire trading in stocks and have no responsibility to the liabilities of day-to-day-business. Free trade is also great if you're a CEO with a golden parachute and know that even if you get fired after laying off 3/4th of your workforce you'll still be rich. For the common person though, free trade is just one more way for the corporations to get slaves.--Instead of teaching our children the wrong example of genocide, go down in dignity and teach that we are stupid.
Re:Actually, I see it as a dangerous development(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) on 2004.12.04 13:16 (#10994477) (http://mercedo.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2005.09.24 14:16)
Because in fact virtually we have no natural resouces. No oil. No iron. ( I'm not saying,' No pain. No gain.')
We have huge human resouces, in other words, we're populous.-127 million.-one-half of that of America. Moreover 70% of our land is not suitable for living. (mountainous) Many people live in urban area.
In order to keep a 'healthy cultural least standard of living', we cannot help relying on overseas in any respect, as a trade partner.
I think I myself have to learn negative aspects of free trade system as you often pointed out. But in fact, in the case of small countries like us, actually we can hardly see those aspects.--Ancient Greek Philosophers -18c Enlightenment Thinkers -Slashdotters [ Parent ]
Re:Actually, I see it as a dangerous development(Score:2)
by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@seeberfamily.org> on 2004.12.11 3:46 (#11053767) (http://www.informationr.us/ Last Journal: 2005.09.24 5:50)
Japan is indeed small. But with recent advances in nanotechnology and alternative energy- you've got more resources than you think. You are surrounded by ocean- and are on a local underwater mountain range. This means that it's easy to find reefs and Now if you were living in say, Chad- that would be another problem entirely....--Instead of teaching our children the wrong example of genocide, go down in dignity and teach that we are stupid. [ Parent ]
Re:Actually, I see it as a dangerous development(Score:2)
by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@seeberfamily.org> on 2004.12.11 3:50 (#11053826) (http://www.informationr.us/ Last Journal: 2005.09.24 5:50)
Something happened to parent- the idea is use tidal energy and nanotech to replace oil with biowaste. Iron can be gotten with solar distilleries from the seawater itself.--Instead of teaching our children the wrong example of genocide, go down in dignity and teach that we are stupid. [ Parent ]
Science -its Effectiveness and Limitation(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) on 2004.12.12 0:33 (#11060069) (http://mercedo.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2005.09.24 14:16)
Human beings are seeking for the 'fourth fire'-fire, electricity, atomic energy, then the fourth one. We all are in R&D on fuel battery. Everybody's seeking for a new energy in order to generate maximum energy in making use of minimum energy.
Certainly through utilising sea bed, seawater, undersea mountain range, sun, tide, wind, wastematerial, through R&D of new technology, we all can contribute to the development of our human history.
But only for peaceful purposes. That's the point. I think we all can cooperate in order to achieve this goal- regardless our nationality.--Ancient Greek Philosophers -18c Enlightenment Thinkers -Slashdotters [ Parent ]
Re:Science -its Effectiveness and Limitation(Score:2)
by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@seeberfamily.org> on 2004.12.12 12:44 (#11064100) (http://www.informationr.us/ Last Journal: 2005.09.24 5:50)
If we let globalization happen, the goal will benefit only the few, not the many. To benefit the many, information must be shared but not production- production should always be as close to the end consumer as possible. This also allows for an energy savings- instead of shipping goods, you make them locally.I see alternative energies such as wind, solar, tidal combined with desktop fabricators and nanofactories being the eventual successor to our current production-shipping-retail chains. It may be the way out of consumerization that we're looking for- but to do that we need to find a way to make it more cost effective than long distance shipping.--Instead of teaching our children the wrong example of genocide, go down in dignity and teach that we are stupid. [ Parent ]
Re:Science -its Effectiveness and Limitation(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) on 2004.12.14 18:02 (#11079822) (http://mercedo.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2005.09.24 14:16)
production should always be as close to the end consumer as possible.
For the reason I mentioned in Nightmare again, we can't help but seek for hinterland other than in China, which means we are inevitably seeking for the distant countries. So that's why such as the utilisations of new alternative energy-wind, solar, tidal and for a new hinterland such as the seabed ( must be a treasure box of lots of resources!) shall have been sought earnestly. It has been expected to have an new more effective energy such as fuel battery. In short we are expecting energy revolution- in order to realise a narrower globe.
For the time being, from the country where we cannot afford ourselves, we have no way but to find a solution in such places relatively at hand.--Ancient Greek Philosophers -18c Enlightenment Thinkers -Slashdotters [ Parent ]
Re:Science -its Effectiveness and Limitation(Score:2)
by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@seeberfamily.org> on 2004.12.15 5:30 (#11084814) (http://www.informationr.us/ Last Journal: 2005.09.24 5:50)
Miniatureization will solve that one eventually- if a desktop fabrication machine does become possible, it will mean that your apartment could be a manufacturing center. No need for a hinterland based manufacturing center, if you can just sell the consumer a pattern over the internet and let them manufacture that pattern themselves.--Instead of teaching our children the wrong example of genocide, go down in dignity and teach that we are stupid.