Tuesday, October 09, 2007

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mercedo wrote today at 12:17 AM
ullangoo saidwe know human sacrifice from many so-called primitive religions. Human sacrifice was so common till 1945 in Japan. Thinking the fact that Jewish tradition prohibited followers from making human sacrifice in times of Abraham, Jewish society was much more advanced than that of one East Asian country.

Monday, October 08, 2007

ullangoo wrote today at 10:58 PM
I think killing (and eating) children has always been extremely rare. Basic human instincts haven't changed that much.On the other hand: we know human sacrifice from many so-called primitive religions. There are indications that they at least sometimes were done with the victim's consent. What Abraham performs is obviously a cult ritual - the altar and so on.

ullangoo wrote today at 11:28 PM
I'm no expert on the Jewish tradition, but in those I know better, myths have been preserved orally for no one knows how long. While the substance of the story - the events - is usually preserved, the why and wherefore undergo many changes. Sometimes the interpretations become almost nonsensical.As far as I know, no forerunner of the Abraham story is preserved in writing, but it's likely there was one. The Torah was thoroughly edited around 500 b.c.e., I've been taught.

ullangoo wrote today at 11:31 PM
Btw: the Islamic tradition claims that it was Ismael, Abraham's son with Hagar, that he almost sacrificed. Nowadays a sheep is sacrificed every year on the assumed day.
mercedo wrote today at 11:11 PM
I wonder there was a forerunner. This story was repeatedly referred and interpreted in many ways. Thanks for interesting quotations.
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morosoph wrote today at 8:13 AM, edited today at 9:42 AM
Read Kierkegaard's "Fear and Trembling" for a radical and religious insight into this story.Then there's always Leonard Cohen's classic song "Story of Isaac":
The door it opened slowly,My father he came in, I was nine years old.And he stood so tall above me,His blue eyes they were shiningAnd his voice was very cold.He said, I've had a visionAnd you know I'm strong and holy,I must do what I've been told.So he started up the mountain,I was running, he was walking,And his axe was made of gold.Well, the trees they got much smaller,The lake a lady's mirror,We stopped to drink some wine.Then he threw the bottle over.Broke a minute laterAnd he put his hand on mine.Thought I saw an eagleBut it might have been a vulture,I never could decide.Then my father built an altar,He looked once behind his shoulder,He knew I would not hide.You who build these altars nowTo sacrifice these children,You must not do it any more.A scheme is not a visionAnd you never have been temptedBy a demon or a god.You who stand above them now,Your hatchets blunt and bloody,You were not there before,When I lay upon a mountainAnd my fathers hand was tremblingWith the beauty of the word.And if you call me brother now,Forgive me if I inquire,Just according to whose plan?When it all comes down to dustI will kill you if I must,I will help you if I can.When it all comes down to dustI will help you if I must,I will kill you if I can.And mercy on our uniform,Man of peace or man of war,The peacock spreads his fan.


ginaslove wrote today at 12:56 PM
I believe ,it was a test of obedience that the God of Abraham was asking him to do . After waiting all those years for a son ,God wanted to see who was loved more . The son or Him (meaning God )

mercedo wrote today at 9:52 PM
Ok, you believe in God and every night and day you pray. God is invisible and keeps silent. One day you insist God ordered to kill your son. Are you going to do by order of invisible silent being? It is better for us to take God for his conscience. The situation Abraham had to consider killing his only son is nothing but for Abraham's own sake. It is natural for us to guess that he must have had a time of starvation.


ullangoo wrote today at 7:50 PM
Yes, the test interpretation is the traditional one. It's not logical to me. If God knows everything, he'd know what Abraham would do, so why put him - and Isaac! - through that? For all I know, the myth may be a memory of a time when human sacrifice was practiced.


mercedo wrote today at 10:56 PM
ullangoo saidFor all I know, the myth may be a memory of a time when human sacrifice was practiced. I think so, too.
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iamrevmike wrote today at 9:43 PM
It is foreshadowing. Abraham was willing to make the same sacrifice that God actually made, thereby man kind was worthy of salvation.


mercedo wrote today at 10:53 PM
Abraham was willing to offer his only son but he didn't have to do that. God sent Jesus to redeem the original sin Adam made. Jesus was crucified but resurrected soon. He ascended to heaven and now he is going to rule God's Kingdom. thereby man kind was worthy of salvation.God created Adam and Adam was given free will. He practiced the free will and got an original sin. Jesus is God's only son and sent to save mankind. God loves humans as deep as he sent his only son. It's hard to understand Christian theology.


ullangoo wrote today at 11:00 PM
mercedo saidIt's hard to understand Christian theology. I won't contradict you on this, my friend.


ullangoo wrote today at 10:01 PM
Mer - the last thing a parent would do if the family starved was to kill his/her children. Most parents would rather kill themselves so that the children could survive. It's an insane interpretation. Abraham, I think, was used to getting answers from God. Personally, if I received such a message: that I had to kill my child or any child, I'd go looking for another object of worship.

mercedo wrote today at 10:32 PM
In Hebrew Biblical times there is one description that parents killed their child to feed themselves in time of extreme starvation. I think it's not uncommon for ancient people to eat their kids.


ullangoo wrote today at 10:58 PM
I think killing (and eating) children has always been extremely rare. Basic human instincts haven't changed that much.On the other hand: we know human sacrifice from many so-called primitive religions. There are indications that they at least sometimes were done with the victim's consent. What Abraham performs is obviously a cult ritual - the altar and so on.
mercedo wrote today at 10:56 PM
ullangoo said
For all I know, the myth may be a memory of a time when human sacrifice was practiced.
I think so, too.
mercedo wrote today at 10:53 PM
Abraham was willing to offer his only son but he didn't have to do that. God sent Jesus to redeem the original sin Adam made. Jesus was crucified but resurrected soon. He ascended to heaven and now he is going to rule God's Kingdom. thereby man kind was worthy of salvation.God created Adam and Adam was given free will. He practiced the free will and got an original sin. Jesus is God's only son and sent to save mankind. God loves humans as deep as he sent his only son. It's hard to understand Christian theology.
mercedo wrote today at 10:32 PM
In Hebrew Biblical times there is one description that parents killed their child to feed themselves in time of extreme starvation. I think it's not uncommon for ancient people to eat their kids.
Very sorry for my understanding, but this incident suggests Abraham was so hungry that he was about to kill his only son to eat. Abraham didn't have to kill his only son only because he found something to eat other than his son. Thus he thanked God. God was only allowed to kill children to feed their parents themselves.

Basically God never asks to offer his follower's only son except for emergency like an extreme starvation.
mercedo wrote today at 9:52 PM
Ok, you believe in God and every night and day you pray. God is invisible and keeps silent. One day you insist God ordered to kill your son. Are you going to do by order of invisible silent being? It is better for us to take God for his conscience. The situation Abraham had to consider killing his only son is nothing but for Abraham's own sake. It is natural for us to guess that he must have had a time of starvation.
Meaning of sacrifice
2007.10.08 1:43

As you know Abraham was about to kill his only son Issac with a request of God to offer as a sacrifice.Somebody told me his interpretation that Abraham was so staved that he had to ask his God if he could kill his only son to feed himself. God said Ok only anyone can kill their kids on the verge of their starvation. Abraham didn't have to kill his only son only because he was fed by something other than his son.I don't think it's not likely though anyway Abraham thanked God as a result.Let me hear your interpretation.
Meaning of sacrifice
Oct 8, '07 1:20 AMfor everyone
As you know Abraham was about to kill his only son Issac with a request of God to offer as a sacrifice.

Somebody told me his interpretation that Abraham was so staved that he had to ask his God if he could kill his only son to feed himself. God said Ok only anyone can kill their kids on the verge of their starvation. Abraham didn't have to kill his only son only because he was fed by something other than his son.

I don't think it's not likely though anyway Abraham thanked God as a result.

Let me hear your interpretation.

Sunday, October 07, 2007

In a movie a young volunteer soldier who is a student of philosophy and history back in Italy abruptly uttered looking at the strange signs scratched on the surface of the big rock asked whether the rock was at the time of Roman rule by his comrade that the ruins then they are dates back to 10,000 years ago before Romans came.The author probably suggested that El Alamein was neither Briton's, Germans nor Italians.By the way, no women appeared in the movie.

The result he never imagined

Hess flew to Scotland with the hope of negotiating peace with his counterpart. He was arrested. He was never released till his death at age 93. The last release was done by himself. It was the only freedom he was allowed.
He said as if all were indicted for nothing but accusation created falsely. Hess was arrested in 1941. Throughout the war he was out of sight. Everything after he was arrested was out of his sight. Hess's analogy Nuremberg trial & Great Purge in Russia interests me a lot. He was inappropriate for Nuremberg trial at all. Yet the reason it was done was pure political, not criminal at all.

War criminals

They ought to be hung, not shot. Why? Because they need to be executed as criminals.
Was he 34th victim?
2007.10.07 22:38

A man who killed 33 young guys confessed at the moment of his execution that he will be the 34th victim of his murder.I am neither a serial killer nor want to know the mind of murderer though presumably what he wanted to say was that he killed 33 people with inevitable force as he is about to be executed by it.Or inevitable fate I should say.
Hess & Hoess
[ Edit Delete #184029 ] 2007.10.07 22:00

Rudolf Hess and Rudolf Hoess... Rudolf Hess was a deputy Fuehrer and fled to Scotland before Barbarossa to negotiate peace with Britain. He was sentenced to life imprisonment and he kept on custody from 1941 to 1987. He was not released even in a short time. It was natural if we thought about the position of Russia, Russia was about to face hypothetical German-Britain Allied. Rudolf Hoess was a commandant of Auschwitz concentration camp. He was sentenced to death in Poland, 1947.In Japan's phonetic system, two names are completely the same, but the roles in war was very different. We were told not to confuse when we first encounter two names in our school. I took him for another one when I saw first in more than twenty years in a documentary program. I had been not always aware of those two differences.I must add that presumably Rudolf Hess was not to be regarded as a war criminal. His times overwhelmed a fate of one man. It was his tragedy.
Re:Question...(Score:2)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2007.10.07 21:49 (#20887173) (http://mercedo-works.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2007.10.04 0:58)
I asked a bilingual guy as to translation of English blog to Japanese and today I got his permission to send his email address to you. Please send him a detail of your request. His email address is in your email account. Please confirm. My name is known to them as Mer, so best reagards..
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Re:May Be Down There(Score:2)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2007.10.07 21:03 (#20886985) (http://mercedo-works.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2007.10.04 0:58)
Thanks for your inquiry.I confirmed as to whether they accept US credit cards. They say they only accept cash.Very reasonable. No seat charge. For example, one beer costs 500 yen. Cocktail costs 600 yen, etc.
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mercedo wrote today at 12:48 AM
pussyhotlady saidWhen a GIRL is quiet……millions of things are running in her mind. Silence sometimes tells us much more than eloquence.
mercedo wrote today at 12:36 AM
All sad stories were about at my age 25 to 30. Now I'm 46, I have a number of girlfriends. Sad memories were gone somewhere.
mercedo wrote today at 12:29 AM
I keep on adding photos of my girlfriends. There's not actually a secret garden since everyone can see. Anyway thanks for your chase.
mercedo wrote today at 12:16 AM
eglamkowski saidHe may have enabled the war, but he didn't fight the war. Yes, that's right. Most wanted Goebbels, Himmler were already gone from a court. Most war crimes were done by Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler and their subordinates. Goering was a aircraft war hero of World war I. Hess flew to Scotland before all battles started. Allied had to hold international war tribunal, but almost all masterminds were absent.

Saturday, October 06, 2007

mercedo wrote today at 11:59 PM
ginaslove saidSome day I will tell you a story . Whenever you want. You can use personal message if you don't want others to know. Waiting.
When I was 23 to 24 I was very fond of reading tens of war records as to Nazis, Soviets, etc. in World War II. I must say he didn't do what he had to feel remorse. He stopped doing what he was ordered by Hitler if it weren't acceptable from his point of view based solely upon his conscience. He didn't do anything against his conscience even if they were ordered by Hitler, and I could guess Hitler allowed Speer to do so. I mean Hitler wanted Speer to act according to Speer's own moral standard. Hitler didn't expect Speer to just follow Hitler's order. This is my impression judging from many books as far as I read.
eglamkowski wrote on Oct 4
The story goes that appeared to show remorse for what he had done and enabled to be done. He was appearently the only senior nazi leader to do so, so he got the lighter sentence.


mercedo wrote on Oct 4
He was very different from other minions of Nazis. As if he were independent from Hitler's order. He even deliberately disobeyed Hitler's one of the last order to destroy Paris. Yes, he was a man of integrity, worthy to survive from Nuremberg trial.


ginaslove wrote on Oct 4
Was he really remorseful ?


eglamkowski wrote on Oct 4
I wasn't there myself, but he convinced enough allied judges of it so it's at least plausible.Then again, he was managing industrial production, not commanding soldiers or secret police, so his case was a bit different from most of the rest right from the start. He may have enabled the war, but he didn't fight the war.


ginaslove wrote on Oct 5
Just visiting , Mer Cedo ,have a good night or day ,am turned around.Some day I will tell you a story . Smile.

Thursday, October 04, 2007

Hess & Hoess, two different figures
Oct 4, '07 2:18 AMfor everyone
Rudolf Hess and Rudolf Hoess... Rudolf Hess was a deputy Fuehrer and fled to Scotland before Barbarossa to negotiate peace with Britain. He was sentenced to life imprisonment and he kept on custody from 1941 to 1987. He was not released even in a short time. It was natural if we thought about the position of Russia, Russia was about to face hypothetical German-Britain Allied. Rudolf Hoess was a commandant of Auschwitz concentration camp. He was sentenced to death in Poland, 1947.
In Japan's phonetic system, two names are completely the same, but the roles in war was very different. We were told not to confuse when we first encounter two names in our school. I took him for another one when I saw first in more than twenty years in a documentary program. I had been not always aware of those two differences.
mercedo wrote today at 2:15 AM
He was very different from other minions of Nazis. As if he were independent from Hitler's order. He even deliberately disobeyed Hitler's one of the last order to destroy Paris. Yes, he was a man of integrity, worthy to survive from Nuremberg trial.
Charisma
2007.10.04 0:58

After sentenced in 20 year imprisonment, being asked by one of his prosecutors in Allied countries what was the key to succeed, Speer replied that it is to make the most of your charisma.Speer won the last oppotunity whether he was sentenced to death or reduced his charge. Probably his prosecutors started thinking he is too charismatic to be killed.
Charisma
2007.10.04 0:58

After sentenced in 20 year imprisonment, being asked by one of his prosecutors in Allied countries what was the key to succeed, Speer replied that it is to make the most of your charisma.Speer won the last oppotunity whether he was sentenced to death or reduced his charge. Probably his prosecutors started thinking he is too charismatic to be killed.

Wednesday, October 03, 2007

Re:Question...(Score:2)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2007.10.03 22:23 (#20835955) (http://mercedo-works.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2007.10.03 3:55)
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Re:Are you in the picture?(Score:2)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2007.10.03 21:47 (#20835611) (http://mercedo-works.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2007.10.03 3:55)
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Re:May Be Down There(Score:2)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2007.10.03 21:20 (#20835383) (http://mercedo-works.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2007.10.03 3:55)
Definitely I will be in Dark Room at 22 on Saturday the 13th of October.Let's have a drink till 6 am.
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mercedo wrote today at 4:40 AM
tortoiseboy2 said Is there something about Japanese society that encourages this kind of idol worship? Nice to meet you..Yes, it is. Very much so. Japanese people in general don't have self-confidence at all. Therefore they tend to project their objective of worship to heroes, beauties, and the celebrities of their own nationalities. The activities of Ichiro, Matsui have nothing to do with them, yet Japanese people tend to believe they are excellent partly because of their racial background, not their personal skill.
Nice to meet you..
Yes, it is. Very much so. Japanese people in general don't have self confidence at all. Therefore they tend to project their objective of worship to heroes, beauties, and the celebrities.
The activities of Ichiro, Matsui have nothing to do with them, yet Japanese people tend to believe they are excellent partly because of their racial background, not their personal skill.
Nice picture.

It's nice, too.

You are pretty.

mercedo wrote today at 4:26 AM
Thanks for your postings. I really appreciated that.
Slashdot party
2007.10.03 3:51

I live in Fukuoka, Japan. For those who live in Japan in this area please attend the party.The party will be held in Dark Room, located at Oyafukou dori. Visit and check here.It takes at least two to tango.
the War and Peace or the Philosophy or Nietzsche

These issues are also some of my main concerns, I will keep on writing about them.

I think I am euphoric, optimistic, and extremely confident, people might think I am megalomaniac, but my life showed I was not megalomaniac. I am going be famous when I want to be so.

mercedo wrote today at 12:45 AM
I am 46 years old and more and more guys from my generation start appearing in TV, magazine, etc. I feel impatient. I think I was able to be famous when I was just over twenty if I wanted, but it was completely unacceptable for me to be just known to local people, namely Japanese.
Still I need a great compromise to be famous only in Japan.

Tuesday, October 02, 2007

Hi, Morosoph..
How do you think about being famous? Have you ever tried thinking about being famous?Don't you want to be famous?
It is unbearable that I am not known to many people.
Or are you already a noted person?
morosoph wrote on Oct 1
I don't know. Sometimes I take a little time to "warm up", and some days I'm plain antisocial. However, my friends are good ones.The outer layer isn't the most interesting bit, and it is ideas that make me wake up. Good conversation with people who don't blur the world into easy categories is stimulating over and above social niceties in my experience.

Monday, October 01, 2007

mercedo wrote today at 9:19 PM
Indeed I assume you are one of Westerners who established self through dialogue to God. Your morals must be very strict, steady, and firm as your faith to God.
mercedo wrote today at 8:59 PM
ginaslove saidI think he meant ,it is a virtue not to touch a woman but if it's in your needs to have ,then take a wife and be with her .

In fact, any woman wants a man to be serious enough eventually to get married to her before she agrees to go out with him. Serious relationship is essential to us.
Restructure -that leads to war
Oct 1, '07 1:42 AMfor everyone
Restructure ...the word seems nice but in reality it means dismissal from someone's job.
As a result of restructure, the number of the unemployed increases.
War offers perfect situation for the unemployed to a job by becoming a soldier and construction or manufacturing opportunity for the damage.
War occurs usually after the major change of social strata.
Hornucopia
Oct 1, '07 1:33 AMfor everyone
Hornucopia appeared at the pinnacle of happiness.
Hornucopia must be representing the moment of happiness.
Chore
Oct 1, '07 1:16 AMfor everyone
Chore...it's not a nice word.
Many people believe usually housewives do chore but I don't believe so. I do chore.
But more and more I've been changing my opinion, especially after I had love with a girlfriend.
Women are usually passive in love affair in our case, I don't know as to your case though.
After the banquet, I am as if I run through long distance race. Instead she is like a woman who were flown by the very rhythmical tide. She looks very vigorous. All the more I am exhausted.
She is doing chore, like washing glasses and cleaning tables.
I am temporarily at a lost.